gsxr 1000 tre

You are correct.  With the ignition module the TRE will be useless because you are changing timing with the mod and the TRE.  If the engine is stock you can remove the Ignition module and only use a TRE.

Quote: Originally posted by johnnygsxr1000 on October 20 08

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I have a 2006 gsxr 1000 with a power commander,ignition module from dino jet and I was wondering if installing a tre would be worthless since I have the ignition module or would it make a differece.

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Quote: Originally posted by jasongillum on October 20 08

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You are correct.  With the ignition module the TRE will be useless because you are changing timing with the mod and the TRE.  If the engine is stock you can remove the Ignition module and only use a TRE.

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Maybe I am not understanding all of this correctly, but from what I have understood, the 3 different modules do different things and complement each other.

1. PC3 Module - Adjusts the Fuel Map across the entire RPM range (Not each gear individually).

2. PC3 Ignition Module - Adjusts the Timing Map across the RPM range (Not each gear individually).

3. X-TRE Module - Allows you to eliminate the Timing Retard in gears 1, 2, & 3 (Not by RPM, by gear) along with removing the rev limiter on 1000cc bikes.

Even with the Ignition Module, the X-TRE helps by eliminate the retard in the first 3 gears.  If you adjust the Ignition Module to counter act the timing retard in the first 3 gears, then your timing will not be set properly in the last 3 gears.  The Ignition Module correct 10% + or - off of the stock ECM map that is retarded and different in the RPM range between gears 1,2,3 and 4,5,6.

Please correct me if I am wrong here, because I have all 3 installed and I would really like to know.  Does the Ignition Module remove the retard on gears 1, 2, & 3?  If not, then the X-TRE is needed to fix that even with the Ignition module because the Ignition module corrects by RPM range, not gear range just like the PC3.

If the Ignition Module removes the retard in gears 1, 2, & 3, I would really like to know.

Thank you

Thank you… Now I am wondering if I should remove the XTRE.  Here is what I have done to my bike.

2007 GSXR 1000

Catalytic Converter Eliminator Pipe
Two Brothers Dual Exhaust
K&N Filter
PC3 USB
PC3 USB - Ignition Module
HealTech X-TRE
HealTech Speedo Healer
PAIR mod (Blocked off)
Exhaust SET valve mod (Remove & wide open)
Dealer Mode Switch

I am about ready to take it to have the PC3 and Ignition module tuned on a Dyno in the spring, but now I am wondering if the XTRE is really doing anything.

Quote: Originally posted by tommy2671 on November 25 08

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You should change your pipe.

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Whats wrong with the 2 bros dual?  I really like the look of it, I added the silencer tips and it sounds really good.  I get zero popping (not even a slight pop at all).  Is there something else that would make a difference in performance (That I would notice)?  My exhaust is completely straight through with out the cat and exhaust set valve.  I have to admit without the noise canceling tip's, it was way too loud, but now it just has a very deap tone/rumbel to it that does not kill your ear drums.

Just curious on what would be worth the $1000+/- cost and the gain.

Thank you

Power is made in the head pipes...not the mufflers.